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	<title>Comments on: Kinship &#038; Marriage</title>
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		<title>By: mic_comte</title>
		<link>http://thefireweed.com/2007/09/18/kinship-marriage/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>mic_comte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,
About consanguinity, it can be a good idea to explain precisely how it can be computed. Here it is:
http://www.braquedubourbonnais.info/en/inbreeding-calculation.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />
About consanguinity, it can be a good idea to explain precisely how it can be computed. Here it is:<br />
<a href="http://www.braquedubourbonnais.info/en/inbreeding-calculation.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.braquedubourbonnais.info/en/inbreeding-calculation.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: esampol</title>
		<link>http://thefireweed.com/2007/09/18/kinship-marriage/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>esampol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, they are past the religious argument and receive enough funding that they don't have to worry about a tax exempt status.  See excerpt below: 

"Marriage socializes men. Anthropologists tell us that a society’s
 most serious problem is the unattached male. Marriage is the answer. 
Natural marriage socializes men by channeling male sexuality 
and aggression in socially productive ways. And it is women 
who do this through marriage.
 Gail Collins, editor of the New York Times editorial page, 
wrote a book titled America’s Women, which examines the role 
of women in American culture. In an Oct. 9, 2003, interview 
on National Public Radio, Collins said, “the most important 
implicit role women play in society was to make men behave.”
Other scholars have recognized the same thing. But same-sex marriage will not socialize males, because males do not socialize other males. The lack of monogamy and relational durability in gay male relationships is evidence 
of this.  Same-sex marriage fails in this first purpose of marriage. 

For more of the same, go to: http://florida4marriage.org/, click on "Arguments for Marriage" on the left, and choose the "Why Not Gay Marriage" Link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, they are past the religious argument and receive enough funding that they don&#8217;t have to worry about a tax exempt status.  See excerpt below: </p>
<p>&#8220;Marriage socializes men. Anthropologists tell us that a society’s<br />
 most serious problem is the unattached male. Marriage is the answer.<br />
Natural marriage socializes men by channeling male sexuality<br />
and aggression in socially productive ways. And it is women<br />
who do this through marriage.<br />
 Gail Collins, editor of the New York Times editorial page,<br />
wrote a book titled America’s Women, which examines the role<br />
of women in American culture. In an Oct. 9, 2003, interview<br />
on National Public Radio, Collins said, “the most important<br />
implicit role women play in society was to make men behave.”<br />
Other scholars have recognized the same thing. But same-sex marriage will not socialize males, because males do not socialize other males. The lack of monogamy and relational durability in gay male relationships is evidence<br />
of this.  Same-sex marriage fails in this first purpose of marriage. </p>
<p>For more of the same, go to: <a href="http://florida4marriage.org/" rel="nofollow">http://florida4marriage.org/</a>, click on &#8220;Arguments for Marriage&#8221; on the left, and choose the &#8220;Why Not Gay Marriage&#8221; Link.</p>
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		<title>By: ploring</title>
		<link>http://thefireweed.com/2007/09/18/kinship-marriage/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>ploring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know how you get special interest groups to stop trying to legislate religion? Threaten their tax exempt status. Now I imagine the one you mention is already not tax exempt because they say baptist in their title. But there are certainly others involved who are tax exempt. Advocacy groups should be able to nickel and dime these initiatives apart by bringing them all to suit for violating the no religious advocacy with federal funds clause. 

Has anyone ever heard an argument against same sex marriage that isn't somehow rooted in religious doctrine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know how you get special interest groups to stop trying to legislate religion? Threaten their tax exempt status. Now I imagine the one you mention is already not tax exempt because they say baptist in their title. But there are certainly others involved who are tax exempt. Advocacy groups should be able to nickel and dime these initiatives apart by bringing them all to suit for violating the no religious advocacy with federal funds clause. </p>
<p>Has anyone ever heard an argument against same sex marriage that isn&#8217;t somehow rooted in religious doctrine?</p>
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		<title>By: esampol</title>
		<link>http://thefireweed.com/2007/09/18/kinship-marriage/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>esampol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are trying to pass an amendment in Florida that reads:

"Inasmuch as marriage is the legal union of only one man and one woman as husband and wife, no other legal union that is treated as marriage or the substantial equivalent thereof shall be valid or recognized."

This would, in effect, make the minimal benefit (hospital visitation) offered by the Domestic Partner registry in Broward County null and void since it's considered an "equivalent".

The folks backing this amendment need 611,009 signatures for it to appear on the ballot. They need to get them by February 1, 2008 and they say they only need another 21,000.  Who are the backers?  The Florida Convention of Baptist Ministers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are trying to pass an amendment in Florida that reads:</p>
<p>&#8220;Inasmuch as marriage is the legal union of only one man and one woman as husband and wife, no other legal union that is treated as marriage or the substantial equivalent thereof shall be valid or recognized.&#8221;</p>
<p>This would, in effect, make the minimal benefit (hospital visitation) offered by the Domestic Partner registry in Broward County null and void since it&#8217;s considered an &#8220;equivalent&#8221;.</p>
<p>The folks backing this amendment need 611,009 signatures for it to appear on the ballot. They need to get them by February 1, 2008 and they say they only need another 21,000.  Who are the backers?  The Florida Convention of Baptist Ministers.</p>
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